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Post Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:55 am 
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I am thinking about repowering my 1996 225 Explorer. My plan is to replace the old Johnson 200 with a new 4 stroke.

How big can I go? & How big should I go?

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:49 pm 
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Max HP on the 225 Explorer, since she's been around, is 300, which of course back then was in the form of twin 150s (300 HP motors didn't exist in '96, save for the old Johnson V-8). A single 300 Vrod, Yam, or Zuke is what you're looking at...

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:03 pm 
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Bob,

I knew I could count on you. I found a Suzuki dealer that will put a new DF250TX on for $17500.

Does that sound good? Too small. I figures the 250 would be about right for my needs/$$.

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$17.5K IMO opinion is a fair price, as rigging will typically go $1500-$2K. Does that include the SMIS gauges?

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Bob C wrote:
$17.5K IMO opinion is a fair price, as rigging will typically go $1500-$2K. Does that include the SMIS gauges?



He said it included controls, installation, everything. (I didn't ask specifics about gauges.) But he was aware that my current set up is all Johnson.

He also said the price would come down a little as we finalized the deal.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:04 pm 
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The Zuke SMIS gauges are the same as Evinrude I-Command, a significant upgrade over standard analogs. NMEA 2K system, obviously gives you a whole lot more data than standard, gives you fuel flow numbers with the fuel sensor, and can be tied into your chartplotter to display engine data. 250s, it's optional, 300s standard. You ought to inquire, JP...

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:52 pm 
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250hp is a nice match for that hull.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:15 am 
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Before you pull the trigger - just check and see what they want for a pair of 115-125 outboards. You might get a surprise. Some dealers around here are actually selling two 115s for less than a single 250. Doesn't make sense, but apparently there is a big demand for big outboards like 250s, not so much for smaller 115/125.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:06 am 
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GF,

Twice the motors, twice the headaches. No thanks!

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:12 pm 
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Don't forget in order to change a single OB Explorer/Osprey over to twins you have to raise the transom cutout.

I agree twins are a source of twice the maintenance, and twice the chances of a failure. The only advantage is maneuvering and redundancy if one engine fails. Of course many outboard failures are fuel system related so both motors can fail.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:38 pm 
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Two separate feeds and two filters solves that.

I'd never run a single again, except on a small boat. Love the safety factor and maneuverability at the dock.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:24 pm 
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Two separate feeds and two filters solves that.

I'd never run a single again, except on a small boat. Love the safety factor and maneuverability at the dock.


Not if the fuel itself is contaminated

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:52 pm 
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Late to the party here but I have the same boat and my mind is set on a 250 when I repower and if I was doing it now the Zukes seem to be the best priced out there.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:34 pm 
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Contaminated? Like old?

I haven't pumped bad fuel in the last thirty years. Back in the day, bad fuel on the water here emanated from rusty tanks.

You pump contaminated fuel down there? What is in it?

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:14 am 
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The transom mod is the biggest obstacle.. And if professionally done, breaks the business case for twins. I have been chewing on this for quite some time. I would also say that twins prob makes for a tougher resale down the road. With two hanging off the back you are focused on a smaller set of perspective buyers. May or may not be meaningful but food for thought. Me- I'm heading for either a df300 or a f300 in the very near future.

Would I love to hear the harmonics of two 150s back there, sure. Am I willing to pay 3-4K to get there, nope!

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